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You’re Not Imagining It! Gaslighting in Relationships and Power

January 28, 2026 By Shauna

Hello, I’m Shauna Hoffman and Welcome back to A Journey to Awareness. The podcast where we slow things down, get curious, and learn how to see ourselves—and the world—more clearly.

I had taken a hiatus to rethink what my next season would be, and wanted to give you a little preview of what will be airing, starting late Spring.

I have so many people struggling right now both in their personal relationships and with what is happening in our country. And I have realized that it is actually the same psychological phenomenon that’s triggering them.

This deeply damaging phenomenon is called **gaslighting**.

You’ve probably heard it in conversations about relationships, families, workplaces—and now increasingly, in politics. But what is gaslighting really?

Listen in to find out!

SHOWNOTES

Hello, I’m Shauna Hoffman and Welcome back to *A Journey to Awareness*. The podcast where we slow things down, get curious, and learn how to see ourselves—and the world—more clearly.

I had taken a hiatus to rethink what my next season would be.  But I have so many people struggling right now both in their personal relationships and with what is happening in our country.

And I have realized that it is actually the same psychological phenomenon that’s triggering them.

This deeply damaging  phenomenon is called  **gaslighting**.

You’ve probably heard it in conversations about relationships, families, workplaces—and now increasingly, in politics. But what *is* gaslighting really?

Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation where someone causes you to **doubt your own reality**.

Not just your opinions—but your *memory of a situation*, your *perception* of a situation, what you see with your very own eyes, and eventually your *judgment*.

Here is an example. You bring up a scenario you need to discuss with someone, usually a partner and they say to you..

  • “That never happened.”
  • “You’re remembering it wrong, I never said or did that..

* “Oh give me a break, You’re too sensitive.”

  • “Come on.. stop overreacting.
  • “There is something wrong with you if you are even believing that”

Here is what is so scary, their goal isn’t just to win the argument,

Their goal is to have power over you.

When someone successfully gaslights you, you start asking yourself:

* *Am I crazy?*

* *Wait. Did I imagine that?*

* *I guess…maybe… it really was my fault.*

When clients first describe these discussions in their relationship they rarely use the word gaslighting. They say things like, “I don’t trust myself anymore,” or “I just feel so confused all the time.”

That confusion is often my clue to dig in to see if I can find the truth for them when they can no longer find it for themselves. You see truths are facts. But when you get gaslit enough you start to lose track of the truth and you start to see the world through their false reality. And when the goal of their reality is one to overpower you, or weaken you… I need to help you find your way back home again.

It’s interesting. Gaslighting often happens slowly. Quietly. It’s rarely one big moment. It’s a pattern—small enough to dismiss at the beginning, frequent enough to erode all the trust you have in yourself.

And here’s the key thing to understand:

Gaslighting only works when the gaslighter positions themselves as the authority on reality.

Gaslighting shows up most often in close relationships—most often with romantic partners. Because proximity creates influence and authority. But it is now happening in our country when we see a clip on the news and then we are told we are not seeing what we know we just watched.

Ok, let’s first talk about Gaslighting in Couples…but feel free to see if it is happening in any other relationship you have, family, a boss, or as I said…with what’s going on in the US right now.

Here are some common examples in relationships:

  • You discover flirtatious texts or DMs and hear, “You’re imagining things. What are you doing looking at my private texts?  You’re always so paranoid.”
  • It could be a forgotten promise they made to you which becomes, “I never said that—you just assumed. God, you’re so selfish.”
  • You may express a hurt and then you’re told, “You’re too sensitive. Anyone else would be fine with this. But you have to make everything about yourself don’t you?”
  • You try to set a boundary and you get labeled “controlling” or I love this one…“dramatic.”.
  • You feel uneasy about repeated behavior and bring it up. They say things like “That’s your anxiety talking, not reality. You’re crazy. This is a you problem, not my problem”*

The most frustrating is when you’re having a fight, they say something to you and you react to it and they insist they never said….what you just heard! You are like… OK What is going on? Is this the twilight zone? Am I losing my mind?

Over time, the focus shifts away from their behavior and onto your reaction. You start monitoring your tone, your words, your emotions—while the original issue goes untouched.

They have you trained!

It’s interesting. Gaslighting in relationships can hide behind humor, charm, or a false concern for you. It can sound loving on the surface while being deeply invalidating underneath. And that word is the one most important word in regard to a person’s self worth. You are Invalidated. You are not worthy. You and your needs become invisible.

In my work with couples, I often see one partner slowly stop bringing things up—not because the issue disappeared, but because it feels safer to stay quiet than to be told they’re wrong again. They are slowly shrinking.

Now, how does this manifest in your body? What does the Body Feel like When You’re Being Gaslit.

See the thing is, Gaslighting isn’t just psychological—it’s physiological.

Your body often knows before your mind does.

You may start to feel:

* Tightness in the chest or throat

* A knot in your stomach

* You Feel suddenly small or frozen (which by the way is exactly what they want you to feel)

  • You have increased anxiety before your conversations- Again, they want you to Fear them. It’s their way of having power over you

* You start having Brain fog or difficulty recalling details

* And you have an overall sense of dread anytime you have to  bring something up

Next thing you find yourself:

* Over-explaining

  • Apologizing excessively
  • Replaying conversations in your mind to “get it right” before you speak about the issue.

* You start feeling confused but you don’t know why

This happens because gaslighting activates the nervous system.

When your reality is questioned, your body goes into **threat response**. Fight, flight or freeze. And when that threat is ongoing, the body stays in one of those three responses. And usually it’s FREEZE..

Please listen to me.

Confusion is not a personality flaw.

It’s often a trauma response to chronic invalidation.

Let me say that again…. Confusion is not a personality flaw.

It’s often a trauma response to chronic invalidation.

When someone shares these symptoms with me I listen closely. It almost always signals a person who doesn’t feel safe.

So, why is Gaslighting Is so effective?

Gaslighting works because human beings are wired for connection.

We want to believe the people we love.

We want harmony.

We want to belong.

And our brains don’t like uncertainty.

So when someone confidently insists that *your reality is wrong*, your nervous system often chooses safety over truth.

Now let’s widen the lens.

And let’s talk for a moment about what brought me to do this podcast at this moment in time and come out of my podcast break!

It is the Gaslighting that is happening to citizens in the U.S. today.

At this point in history, gaslighting isn’t just personal—it’s **systemic**.

In today’s news cycle, we’re seeing blatant gaslighting when:

  • Documented events are denied despite video or audio evidence! We are being told that what we are seeing with our own eyes is not true…or real.
  • Shifting narratives are presented as if they were always true, In other words the narrative of events keeps shifting as you are seeing facts that the politician doesn’t want you to believe. And then they try to make you believe that what they are telling you now was the “truth” all along! You just misinterpreted it.
  • Entire groups of people are being told their lived experiences are exaggerated or fake!

And this is Gaslighting at its most manipulative and most dangerous.

* People asking legitimate questions of our government are reframed as being disloyal or hysterical.

This underlying message is profound and very scary for our country:

*”Don’t trust what you see. Don’t trust what you feel. Don’t trust anyone but us.*

This is mass gaslighting.

What I am seeing with friends, clients and the citizens of this country on both sides of the aisle is that when reality is constantly being rewritten, people become exhausted, polarized, and emotionally flooded.

And here’s the dangerous part:

When reality feels unstable, people cling to certainty—even if it’s false. The Gaslighter wins.

Gaslighting in politics isn’t about persuasion.

It’s about **disorientation**.

A disoriented public is easier to control. Let me say that again. A disoriented public is easier to control.

So let’s be clear.

Gaslighting is gaslighting. Whether it is being done to you personally or you are seeing it en masse all around you.

So what do we do to remind ourselves of our own reality and our own truth?  How do we break the spell?

We do it with AWARENESS. With anchoring back into reality.

Here are a few grounding principles:

  • Your feelings are data. TRUST THEM
  • Patterns matter more than isolated incidents. In other words be AWARE if there is a pattern of gaslighting from a certain person or entity.
  • Your Reality does not require someone else’s permission. You have a right to own your own perceptions and reality.

* Confusion is often a sign of manipulation—not weakness.

“Awareness restores your agency” What does that means?

When you become aware of what’s actually happening—especially in situations like gaslighting—you regain the ability to choose instead of just react.

Gaslighting takes away your agency by making you doubt yourself.
*You stop trusting your memory.
*You second-guess your instincts.
*You look to someone else to tell you what’s real.

Awareness interrupts that.

When you can name, “This is gaslighting,” something shifts:

  • You realize the confusion isn’t because you’re broken.
  • You stop trying to convince the other person.
  • You start listening to your own internal signals again. You gain back your agency.

Agency is your capacity to think, feel, decide, and act on your own behalf.

Gaslighting—whether in a relationship or to a nation—disconnects us from ourselves.

And it is self awareness that reconnects us again.

Healing often begins the moment someone realizes, “It wasn’t that I was broken. It’s that my reality kept being challenged. And you know what? I’m not crazy!.”

You’re not broken for feeling confused.

You’re not weak for questioning.

And best of all reclaiming your sense of reality is the most powerful act you can do for your self worth, and your sanity.

I love this quote by Tracy Malone

“The healing doesn’t happen in the rewind. It happens in the pause. In the breath. In the moment you choose yourself again.” 

Oh beautiful listeners. Thank you for listening today. Please be good to yourself. Honor your own reality over others. Stay true to your beliefs, your morals, ethics and values no matter who you are with or what you are being told. Honor your body! Drink lots of water, eat nourishing food and please surround yourself with loving beings.

Thank you for letting me into your lives this week. And I look forward to popping back in again next time.

 

Filed Under: Uncategorized Tagged With: Authority, Awareness, Citizen, Controlling, Disorientation, Emotions, False Narrative, False Reality, Families, Family, Gaslighting, Nervous System, Podcast, Politics, Relationships, Shauna Hoffman, Truth, US, Workplace

68 Kick it Up, Or Take a Break, What’s Your Me Time?

April 30, 2022 By Shauna

Hello and Welcome back to a Journey To Awareness, I’m your host Shauna Hoffman. Thanks for joining me today! As many of you know, cruises, sailing, or being anywhere near or on the water is my happy place…my home away from home. I swear I was a mermaid in a past life. Or who knows! Maybe I was the Captain of a tall ship or a brilliant female pirate, like Anne Bonny. Whatever got me addicted to the water I am grateful. This got me thinking about what draws us to places to just getaway.  And what kind of getaway do people crave? I ask you… Kick it up or take a break? What’s your ME time?

Ready? Let’s go…

SHOWNOTES:

Hello and Welcome, I’m Shauna Hoffman.

So first let’s break down ME TIME! because I know so many of my listeners struggle to honor themselves and take the breaks that they need to recoup, replenish, revive themselves, and breathe.

And for some of them, it’s not the “quiet time” they need. Its playtime! Remember what it means to play? That’s having fun! Being Creative! Letting loose! Kicking up your heels! Laughing! Socializing! Dancing! Believe me, playtime is just as reviving to your soul as sleeping on a beach or gazing into the waves on the ocean, or reading a book in bed.

In my two businesses, therapy and my travel biz I love to explore what my clients need to be at peace and happy. I have women who spend their days taking so much care of others that they have not even realized how exhausted or on empty they are. And yet, those same women have not had any time for fun in their lives other than playing with their kids.  I have couples whose fun revolves around their kids and have not been on a vacation of their own in years. They have lost touch with all the fun they used to have before their kids were born. I have businesswomen who take their work with them on every vacation they take! They swear they couldn’t get away without their laptop or tablet. God knows what would happen if they missed an email or a call.

How is that downtime?

“DOWNTIME”…. time when you have no responsibility to anyone or anything except yourself. Let me repeat that.

DOWNTIME…. is when you have no responsibility to anyone or anything except yourself.

I love that when I looked up this phrase the Oxford dictionary says “it’s a time during which a machine, especially a computer, is out of action or unavailable for use.”

So what does this mean for you? When are you out of action or unavailable for use by others? And how much guilt would you have if you decided that you deserve that ME time?

My goal for all of you is that you answer “None! I would have no guilt!”

During what my hubby calls “The Cove Times…during the height of covid lockdown….. people experienced what they thought was downtime. Some were forced into less activity. Yet, so many others had their responsibilities doubled! Taking care of a family, home, and animals and doing this working from home! Not to mention all the stress and fear that surrounded us about staying safe and healthy. What for some was a break… for others was their own tiny hell! Downtime during “the cove times” was not downtime.

So I ask you when was the last time you made a point to have ME time? Time for just ME? When was the last time you chose yourself over everyone else?

I can almost hear the rumblings through the airwaves. “I can’t take time for myself. No one can cover for me.”

Or… “I can take the time but I won’t because people will think I’m selfish.” Really what people? If they love you they would want you to recoup.  Besides, you know my saying… just tell them, “What you think of me is none of my business.” Usually, when my clients tell me this I remind them that no one else can make them feel anything. YOU are the one who is not standing up for yourself and choosing to feel guilty. You are the one choosing to not put yourself first.

ME TIME! Making a moment about just me!

Now back to my first question…  Kick it up or take a break? What’s your ME time? And do you even know?  When I help my clients both in travel and in therapy plan their ME time I help them look for balance.  If they are going going going, physically active, then I help them see if they need time for their body and mind to relax. And what would that look like for them? A beach? A Cabin in the woods? A balcony on a cruise looking out over the ocean?

Or if they are in a world that keeps them sedentary, behind a desk, or these days on zoom calls all day do they need action, to move, to have fun, high energy to recoup the life in their life? Do they need to dance, or run, or go skiing or sailing!

I have told this story before. But when I was in the last month of getting my Master’s Degree I truly was on empty! A year and a half of school with no breaks, homework late into the night, and writing my thesis paper. Studying for my finals had taken its toll on me. It’s funny, here I was studying to be a psychotherapist and I had lost myself.  Then one day I decided to practice what I was learning.  Check-in… self-awareness… being aware of SELF!

It hit me. I needed to be outside! I had been indoors glued to computers for almost 2 years and I didn’t feel human anymore. So, I asked my friend to take me for a hike in the California mountains. I knew I had so much studying to do. But I also knew that if I didn’t I would not have the bandwidth to do everything I needed to do to graduate.

Se we packed up our water bottles and sandwiches and headed to the mountains. I can’t even tell you what that day was like for me.  The memory of it is like a dream. I think I floated down every path, touched every leaf of every tree, listened for birds singing and stared at the blue blue sky.  When we got to a trickling river I just sat there in silence. The power of mother earth to heal. The sound of water calming my soul.

I reflect on that day so often in my life when I feel out of balance. I ask myself what I need right now to feel balanced. And more than that, what I need right now to feel happy!

There’s a concept! Doing things that make us happy! Make US happy! Not others! What makes YOU happy?

So let’s do a little check-in…. every listener will answer these questions differently.

When was the last time you spent time in nature?

When was the last time you put down your phone or computer and got off all electronics?

When was the last time you talked for an hour face to face with a good friend or your sister, or mom or your partner?

That question is so important. Human contact is what so many of us lost during The Cove Times. Do you crave to be around people right now? To laugh with someone, share your spirit with someone willing to share theirs with you?

Now the opposite!

When was the last time you were by yourself? Sitting in silence with your own thoughts?

If you have been alone…when was the last time you actually listened to your SELF, checked in with your SELF instead of filling your alone time with stuff…. social media, Wordle, and Candy crush?

Now do a body check!

When was the last time you took a nice long walk, or got on a bike, or did yoga or danced?  Or hiked and touched every leaf as you walked by it? Is your body craving action?

Now your mind! When was the last time you actually gave your racing mind a break? Meditated? Put down your to do list. Or just stopped adding to it? Breathed? Silence?

Or on another note…for those who have not had time to stimulate their minds, when was the last time you learned something new? Or began to write that book you have been dreaming of writing? When was the last time you touched your creativity?

All of this is the answer to balance!  All of this is the question I ask my clients when we are trying to find their next ME time vacation! Are they going to Italy and learning Italian along the way? Are they going on a sail to the Caribbean and lying in the sun with a book in hand? Are they going on a writer’s retreat and kicking up their dreams? Are they off on a cruise that has it all? Food, balconies to watch the water, dancing all night, ports of calls to meet new people?  Ok, truly this is why I love cruising! It has it all for whatever mood I’m in. I recently counted up how many days I have been at sea…and I realized I have now spent three years of my life onboard cruise ships. It’s my home away from home. Put this mermaid on the water and I am happy. I am at peace.

Where do you feel at home when you are not at home? What place in the world feels like you just belong?

Here is a quote I love from Oprah…

“Alone Time is when I distance myself from the voices of the world so I can hear my own”.

Everyone’s ME time is going to be different.  And each of your me time needs will change moment by moment, day by day, year by year.  The answer to all of the knowingness around your needs is back to the point of this podcast. Self-awareness. Checking in with self, taking your SELF off of remote control. Listening to your heart, your mind, your soul….even your own breath.

I am excited to share that I will be doing a retreat with another amazing woman, Molly Lyda on the Navigator of the Seas for three nights of ME TIME! When we came up with our dream around what this weekend would look like it all came back to the idea that sometimes we just need to say… It’s My Turn!”   So that is what this weekend cruise will all be about. We will be helping each of the mermaids sailing with us to choose to look within. Choose ME.

As Molly says, “Nurturing ourselves with a get-away like this brings SO much possibility into our life! When we take the time to reflect, relax and explore on the inside, we gain clarity around our true desires and we invite more abundance in on the outside.”

I love that. We all know that when we recoup, bring balance back into our lives, and honor ourselves, then we make space for our own dreams to come true.

If you want to join us it is October 7-10, 2022 out of Los Angeles. You can read about it on my website blueoceanretreats.com.  I do hope you join us.

I do hope this episode has brought you the desire to ask yourself… ‘What is it that I NEED RIGHT NOW TO make me happy? “

Kick it up or take a break? What’s your ME time?

I hope that between now and the next time we meet on the airwaves or on the high seas you honor your SELF. You nurture your SELF! You listen to your SELF!  You CHOOSE “ME!”

Thank you for letting me into your lives this week and I look forward to popping back in again next time!

Filed Under: Podcast Tagged With: Emotions, Heart, Love, Personal Growth, Positive, Self Awareness, Self Care, Self Esteem, Self Love, Shauna Hoffman, Therapy, Time

60 Let Me Be Clear!

April 24, 2021 By Shauna

Hello and Welcome, I’m Shauna Hoffman

I hope these past few weeks have been filled with ease, peace, and love. Those of you who have followed my podcast for the last year have probably noticed that I have begun to record them every other week instead of every week. With the world opening up again, my businesses have taken off.

One of the strange blessings of these Covid times was it freed me up to record a podcast every week. I am now pivoting once again for the next few months to accommodate this new world.

The other thing you will notice is that the podcasts are now short and sweet and filled with info that you can digest fast! It’s funny, so many of my listeners have said they love to take in the short ones for inspiration and then try and use the rest of the week to assimilate what they have learned into their day. So, alas! I’m going to keep these next few month’s podcasts short and sweet!

This week I am going to dig into what I believe is one of the most powerful phrases to live by. The words, “Let me be clear”.  Not only is it a message to the person you are speaking to, but it is a powerful message to yourself. Let’s break this down. When we are in the middle of a conflict with someone, we tend to let our emotions take over.  We often lose sight of our own truth, or more importantly our own logic. When we let our emotions take over in an argument we can pretty much guarantee that the other person will respond with emotion and not logic, too. And the whole communication goes to hell.

When you say to yourself, “let me be clear”, you are checking in first with your logical self to try and enter the conversation with clarity over what you are trying to express.  Now let ME be clear….  that doesn’t mean that your emotions are not involved. It means that you are very clear on the MESSAGE that you want to convey, versus the EMOTION you want to convey. By embracing the words… “let me be clear”, you are offering yourself a moment to truly look at what you are feeling and thinking and be able to speak your truth in the most healthy way.

“Being clear… having clarity.”

When you look up the word clarity it’s defined as being coherent and intelligible. Ok, let’s be serious how often does that happen in an argument?

So how do you do this then? 

When you are wrapped up in all of the feelings in the midst of a hard conversation you need to take a few nice deep breaths and calm down your anger, fear, anxiety, or sadness to dig deep into your soul. You clear your head, calm yourself down so that you can logically decide exactly what it is you are feeling, thinking, and needing to convey to the other person. It’s not easy to do. We tend to be so caught up in either defending ourselves or just trying to win in an argument that clarity goes by the wayside. Taking a moment to find your clarity is one of the highest forms of self-awareness. Taking a deep breath, checking in with yourself, making conscious decisions about what your needs are in the moment and what you want to convey gives you the opportunity to move forward with total conviction in telling the other person what it is you want them to know. You are combining your emotions with your logic to share your absolute truth.

So, imagine yourself in an argument.  Imagine how it can escalate.  Now imagine you stopping. Not answering for a moment..or many moments while you actually check in with yourself to figure out what you want the other person to get LOUD AND CLEAR. Now calmly and with conviction you say…LET ME BE CLEAR… this is what I want you to know.

What does that feel like? Great isn’t it? Empowering!

Now there is another side to “let me be clear”.  It can be used to ask the other person to clarify to YOU what they mean!

“Let me be clear that what you are saying is DOT DOT DOT…..”.

So often in the midst of an argument, they don’t hear us and we don’t hear them. We each hear what we want to hear. And mostly what we hear is not facts but drama, or emotion. So asking them “Let me be clear that what you are saying is…..” allows you to engage in healthy conversation based on intention and not assumptions.

I’m going to repeat that….

mostly what we hear is not facts but drama, or emotion. So asking “Let me be clear that what you are saying is…..” allows you to engage in healthy conversation based on intention and not assumptions.

In other words….

“Let me be clear so that I can understand exactly what you are trying to say to me.”

Now imagine you are the other person and you hear those words calmly being asked of you.  You are actually being validated that your thoughts are important enough to be truly listened to.

Once you approach an argument or fight this way it is up to each of you to decide whether to engage in a healthy way or not.

So here’s the thing. From this moment on there is no guarantee that the person on the other side of this argument is going to hear you. Or that they are going to even care to engage in a healthy way. There is no guarantee that it will change their minds or help solve the argument.  The only thing it DOES do is empower your voice! Empower you to understand that you have every right to state your feelings. Empowers you to take a stand for all that you believe in and all that you know you deserve because you have CLEARLY thought about it. Most importantly it empowers you to know that you demand respect and have given respect. Even if the other person can’t give it back to you.

But what I want you to walk away with from this podcast today is this.

“Let me be clear” is a message to yourself. A message that you want to communicate in the most mature way. And much Bigger picture…A message that you deserve to stand up to anyone in your world. A message to yourself that you CAN, SHOULD, and will forevermore claim your truth.

“Let me be clear that I have thought about this and here are my feelings and my thoughts and needs around this conversation.”

“Let me be clear that if you talk to me like that this conversation is over.”

“Let me be clear that I do not communicate with someone who is being aggressive to me in any way.”

“Let me be clear that I have needs and desires whether you like it or not.”

“Let me be clear to myself that I will never allow anyone to treat me disrespectively again”.

In podcast episode  #27   “I don’t do this” I delve deeper into this topic.  Please, if you haven’t listened to it, try to.  You deserve to have the tools to honor your own needs.

I hope that you practice and practice the phrase “let me be clear” as often as you can so that you embrace your own clarity and feel empowered enough to share it with the world. I hope you use this phrase as a guiding force, a compass on your amazing journey to self-awareness.

I am leaving you once again with my favorite quote of all time by Audrey Lorde.

When I dare to be powerful, to use my strength in the service of my vision, then it becomes less and less important whether I am afraid.

Beautiful beings, be good to yourselves! Drink lots of water, get lots of rest, have so much fun in your life, go after your dreams, surround yourself with loving beings, and most importantly be true to your heart!

Thank you for letting me into your life this week and I look forward to popping back in again next time!

LEARN MORE ABOUT THE CONTENT DISCUSSED…

• A Journey to Awareness Podcast: All Episodes

• Shauna’s website: https://www.workingonme.com

WHEN DOES IT AIR… 
APRIL 24, 2021

Filed Under: Podcast Tagged With: Clarity, Clear, Communication, Conversation, COVID, Drama, Emotions, Logic

58 A Constant State Of Goosebumps with Massimo DeMarco

March 21, 2021 By Shauna

Shauna (00:02):

Hello and welcome. I’m Shauna Hoffman. I am so excited to introduce you to my guest for today’s podcast. Not only is he one of the most resilient and prolific people I have ever known, but I am lucky to call him my friend or more like my soul brother. No wonder I wanted him as the first male guest on the podcast. Massimo Noja DeMarco. Let me tell you just a little bit about Massimo. He’s the founder of Kitchen United, the first ghost kitchen in the US. He served as Vice President of Operations for SBE Entertainment. If you know, LA you know, SBE is one of the biggest entertainment organizations in this town. Previously, he covered the same role at Wolfgang Puck. Yeah. I got to go hang with him at the big Academy Awards, Gala Dinner. Massimo owned and operated restaurants in New York City LA. And he was just nominated as one of the most influential restaurant CEOs in the country. Are you wondering why he’s so amazing in the hospitality business? Yeah. Well, he’s Italian. Massimo was raised in a seven-generation family in hospitality in Italy. Welcome, Massimo.

Massimo (01:20):

Thank you, Shauna. That was a big introduction there. You know, me, you’ve known me for a long time. You know, I’m the biggest goofball that you’ll ever meet. I am, uh, I am your soul brother. I remember meeting you many years ago and just seeing a total light. You have been a guiding light through my life. Just like, uh, all the influences that came across my life. But, you know, you mentioned my family, my family, you’re a bringing is really so incredibly important on who you are. You, you got to meet my mom, you get to meet my dad. You know, these incredible people that always were with me at any moment of big decisions that I made. Whether they were there in person or not, they were always in my mind. And I always thought, how would my mom and dad feel about this?

Massimo (02:11):

How would they judge me? How would they cheer me? And so that’s always been in the back of my mind every time I made a decision, whether it was about career or, or relationships and everything else. So I’m so thrilled to be here. Shauna, you know, I love being in presence of greatness. I am in presence of greatness today. And then, and I hope that there is a lot of great, amazing people on this podcast, which I know there’s going to be. Cause I’ve heard some of your previous ones and I was blown away at the last one. I listened to it twice in a row because it was so amazing.

Shauna (02:47):

Thank you so much. Well, I’m very blessed to have people like you in my life who not only believe in me, but Massimo you and I have talked about so many deep conversations and the

profound relationship that we have as a friend. That is what gives me so much strength. There’s always somebody for me to throw around my pain, with my confusion, with, to talk to you about business relationships. God knows. We kind of grew up together here as we got old. Well, so I go, what do we talk about? We’ve delved into so many conversations from work, from pain relationships, heartache. Talk to me, brother, what are we talking about today?

Massimo (03:37):

I think that a constant in life, you and I have had is a thing that happens in life, right? But things happen for everybody. I think that as you grow up, you don’t realize that. And when I say things might be not so pleasant, things that could happen to you don’t want to call them bad things. Cause there’s no such thing as bad. It’s, it’s all a learning experience. But I think that the earlier in life that you realize that things are going to happen to you. And the more you’re going to be prepared when these things happen to you, therefore you’re going to learn quicker, how to react to all these bad things. And you’ve watched me going through many, many years of successes and failures and, and losses and all kinds of things. And those are all part of life.

Massimo (04:34):

Nobody can escape them. And so when they happen, you, you have a decision to make, you really have to choose how you’re going to go forward. The human reaction is you’re going to sit, eat a lot of ice cream cry, scream, bargain, pray to God, pray and, and, and pray again because that’s what I’ve done. Growing up Catholic. I was bargaining. I was praying. I was, I was hoping I was crying. I was getting angry. And, and that happened throughout the course of my life. Every time that something bad happened. However, I learned that every time that these things happened, the best thing for me was to accept them, and accepting what happened was incredibly, um, revealing because it helped me move forward. You can have resentment, you can have hate, you can have anger and, and especially towards someone that does you wrong, if you, you know, that people have done me wrong, maybe I deserved it.

Massimo (05:47):

Maybe I didn’t, I don’t want to go to, to that point. But the fact is that people have done me wrong. And I realized after many of these incidents that I needed to be able to forgive those people for what they had done to me, not forget. I’m not saying forget, because if you forget, then you don’t learn the lesson. But, but understanding that if you do not forgive someone that has done you wrong, you’re always going to replay that movie over and over and over into your head. And every time that you replay that movie, you are experiencing the same pain that, that you have experienced the moment that this has happened, this doesn’t do you any good? Doesn’t do you any good physically? Because you get sick, you get nauseous, you get you, and then you get upset. And then, and then mentally it doesn’t give you that peace.

Massimo (06:51):

I have learned that if I was able to forgive, I will get to peace a lot faster. You know, something happened a year ago. To me, that was devastating, absolutely devastating. And this was something that I never saw coming. However, this time I bargain and prayed and cried for only four days on the fifth day, I went on a hike and you remember, cause I called you, I went on a hike and I said, I’m going to let go. I’m going to forgive. I’m not going to forget, but I’m not going to play this over and over and over and get upset over and over and over every single time because it wouldn’t do me any good. And guess what amazing things started happening from that day on, right after that day, amazing things started to manifest into my life that, uh, that made me who I am right now, both in life and in business. So that’s one of the lessons that I’ve learned. I think there’s a lot, a lot more that I need to learn, but you know, that’s, that’s something that I am really happy that I learned about a year ago.

Shauna (08:06):

I think that’s really so profound. I always talk about the fact that when we hold onto a hurt, it’s like, it’s a thorn in our hand and we hold it tighter and tighter and tighter and tighter because we don’t want to let it go. And what is it doing to our hand? The thorn is in our hand and we’re the ones holding on so tight. And when we can finally open up our hand, take the thorn out. It can actually start healing. You don’t forget because you actually, you know, some scars are good. Some scars are there to remind us of the lessons that we have learned. And we don’t want to we’re, we’re going up this journey to awareness. We don’t want to let go of our lessons. We don’t want to pretend we never had them. We don’t want to forgive to the point where we go, Oh, it’s okay. And put it so far out of our minds that we don’t learn from the experience even ourselves and what we did in this situation to get to that point. So let’s talk about forgiveness of ourselves.

Massimo (09:10):

That’s probably the hardest one because we always tend to regret some of the bad choices that we have made. And those are harder to let go of because you’re always going to go back and say, why did I do that back then? Right. Sometimes I think, and I don’t know if this is true or not, but sometimes I think that I got maybe a little bit too cocky.

Shauna

Could it be you?

Massimo

Maybe I got a little bit Italian.

Maybe I don’t want to say arrogant because I’ve never been arrogant. I was taught better than that, but maybe it just got a little bit too comfortable with something and maybe thought that I was, uh, in a place where I couldn’t be any better that I could achieve any better because I’ve achieved so much. And I got to that point where I was like, wow, how, how am I going to top this? And, uh, and so I think the universe listens to you and it goes, Oh yeah, let me show you and knocks you right down.

Knocks you right down from your pedestal. Knocks you write down from your cushy job. Knocks you right out of your amazing friendship. That turns, turns out to be something, uh, painful. And so every time you’re knocked down, something happens to you. And as you were saying, you can look at the scar and admire the scar, but you can keep putting your finger on that scar and relieving that pain because that’s, that’s just not good.

Massimo (10:51):

And so for me, rebounding, after each of these experiences has become easier and easier because it happens so many times, right? So in a way I became, I’m not going to say I became a pro at rebounded, but you know, I’ve heard, I’ve heard people, my friends and, you know, they call me a number of names. You know, they say, Oh, you’re resilient. Uh, you know, you’re relentless, you bounce back. Uh, you’re like a cork. If they try to put you on their water, you chump right out. Um, and, and, and it’s so true. It’s really true. The more they pushed me down and the more I tend to react and say, you know what? I am here and I’m not going away. Try to put me down. I’m going to Excel so I can show you that I can Excel. I can show you that by doing the right thing, I can still Excel. And Shauna, I think I shared this with you the other day. I read a post somewhere from someone. I, I don’t even know who it is, but it hit me so hard. I think it’s one, it’s one of the most beautiful things I read in a long time. And it was a very, very short sentence. And it said they try to bury me, but they did not realize that I am a seed.

Shauna (12:10):

I love that so much. Massimo. There’s something else about you though. You are resilient. You do bounce back. I’ve always loved about you your hope. You always kept a level of hope and dreams. You know, we used to joke around when we were young, Oh, there’s my Massimo dreaming again. And yet I watch you make your dreams come true. How for you hope is a part of who Massimo is. And that’s what I’ve always known about who you are.

Massimo (12:43):

But hope is not, it’s not enough, right? Dream is not enough. Dream is beautiful because dreaming, you can, you can come up with something, something new, something beautiful, something interesting, something helpful, something that, that fills a void and a necessity in this world. But unless you act nothing is going to happen and you can act in many different ways. And a lot of people act upon their dreams and their ideas, but they’re not successful. In order for you to act on something that you want to manifest or something that you want to make happen, whether it’s a business, or generally for me, has been mostly for business, uh, having these great ideas, but then put it into practice became very, very, very hard. And I, and I boil it down to just one word for me, discipline. If you don’t have that discipline to go through and analyze every part of your business, what can go, right?

Massimo (13:44):

What can go wrong? How am I going to go, right? How am I going to go wrong? And, and habit clear plan. And then clearly the plans many times get thrown. You know, they blow up, they blow up, but then you need to learn how to pivot. How do you pivot again? You have to have that discipline to stay put because if you know that if you have to get up every morning at five o’clock to start working on your business before you get older, the meetings lined up, you have to do that. It’s like working out. I mean, I’m not going to go and throw out too many sports, um, you know, stories, but, but look at Tiger Woods. Come on. One of the most talented people and his whole entire life is still hitting balls, uh, at a driving range all day long. It is discipline. It is so important. You go back to basic every single time, train retrain yourself, retrain your mind, rewire those bad thoughts that you have as you’re going through and thinking, Oh, this is, this is bad. This is bad. No, no, no, no. Just forget about what’s bad focus on what’s good. And if you have to go to point A and point B, and there is something in between, well, go around it, you know, rewire your brain in that way.

Shauna (15:02):

And what I want our listeners, our listeners to think about is to take everything that you’ve just said and apply it to their own growth, their own. You’re talking about business, but I also know that this is who you are. This is exactly how you take on any challenge. You figure it out, you look at it, you go around it. There’s another really great story I try to remember. It was a really simple Buddhist story. And it was a man and he’s walking down the road and there’s a giant boulder in the center of the road. And he says, you know, Buddha Buddha help me. I can’t, I don’t know what to do. I need to get to the other side. I don’t know how to get there. And Buddha says we’ll just walk around it. We do that. We see a Boulder. We see something that stops us.

And we don’t realize how many different paths we have to get to the other side. So whether it’s a relationship, whether it’s a loss of a job, whether it’s a loss of a love, whether it’s just trying to find out who we redefine ourselves, there are so many ways to get around. Sometimes we have to look for help. Sometimes we have to look for another way. You once said something to me. Then I’m gonna throw out here that when you were younger, you really would wake up every morning and tell yourself a list of things. What were those things? Do you remember?

Massimo (16:46):

No. Um, it, it depends. It depends on what, at what age, but I just remember that. Well, first of all, let me just go back a little further. So when I was a child and experiencing the world through the eyes of my grandfather, who was an amazing human being and, you know, I grew up telling my father that I wanted to be like, Lorenzo. I wanted to be like his father because this, this man just, you know, look, I have goosebumps just as soon as I say his name, right. Uh, you know that my story is called “a constant state of goosebumps” because that’s when great things happen, right. When you get goosebumps is because great things happen. And so I’m going back to the experience of how my grandfather will start a day. When I spent the night at my grandparents, I would hear my grandfather when he got up in the morning, because there’s an old Italian man.

Massimo (17:38):

He smoked a pipe. So every morning when he got out of the house, he would clear his throat, you know, making that not so not so cute sound. But I woke up and I ran and I watched him and he was already standing out there with this cafe latte, with the little coffee cup that he held with both hands, because he always held it with both hands and, and brought it to his mouth with the two hands because he said that the warm of the cup warmed his soul, warmed his heart and all of that. Right. But the most beautiful part he would walk. And I would walk right behind him with my little cup of coffee latte, because, you know, couldn’t have a big one like him, but I would follow him. And I would watch him go over into his garden and go over to a plant or a tree and, and talk to the plant and talk to the tree and, and saying grace and thanking the universe and thanking God for giving him such a beautiful garden.

Massimo (18:34):

He would go to the tomato plants as soon as they started popping out. And I don’t know if you know, but in Italy, uh, Pomo D’oro, which is tomato is, is, is the golden Apple. It translates to golden Apple. So these golden apples that were coming out in his garden and all these fruits, he would go over and, and, and caress the leaves and, and saying grace and being so incredibly grateful for what you had right in front of him. And I think that that’s a lesson that I carried around. I was always very grateful for the small things. Uh, you know, I like to grow my produce as well. I think it’s because of grandfather, but, but just watching the produce, growing in your garden gives me that, that kind of kind of thing. And if you think about it, it’s not just, you know, you applied into everything, you can apply to your business because you are going out every single day and you’re going to interact with your teams and the people that you’ve hired.

Massimo (19:31):

And if you’ve hired some people you’ve, you saw something good in them, right? So these are my little Pomo d’oro my little golden apples that I want to go out and thank every single day. And I want to say grace, and I want to be grateful for having these talented people in my life, making this day, being a beautiful experience and making my company be a great success, whether it’s making money or, or, or, or other purposes in life is just having someone in your team that understands what you’re looking for in them. And you can appreciate them so that when they come to work, they know that they are appreciated. They know that you’re grateful for them. Therefore, when they understand that you have their best interest at heart, they’re going to be more loyal employees. They’re going to be more loyal friends.

Massimo (20:23):

And my hope has always been that they would take that message home with them. And as a result, become not just better employees, but become better fathers, better mothers, better husbands, better, better, better friends, better everything. Cause, you know, as you care for someone, you want to show them. So if you can show someone that you are grateful when you’re coming from work and in your, your wife just goes and opens a bottle of wine, it doesn’t matter. It brings it to you, right? It’s not that the woman needs to do that. Or the men needs to do that because it’s just a sign of caring and appreciation. Look, I don’t think I’ve ever had a date in my life that came over. You know, I love to cook. Right. And, and I love wine and all that, but I don’t think I’ve ever had a date that came over to my house.

Massimo (21:14):

And, and I didn’t say let’s go in the kitchen and make something beautiful, food-wise, um, to be precise that I didn’t want to get too inappropriate, but let’s, let’s go, let’s go and do something. Let’s go and, and get to know each other through a very creative way. You know, how we, not just how we cook it, but how we present it and how appreciative we can be when we finally bought into, uh, this beautiful dish, you know, and not just the flavors, but the look and so on. And so it’s all about putting in the work and putting that discipline into that as well. Right? It’s always about discipline doing a thing, half hat, right? I think you guys say this in America half that But if you do things half hat, you always have, you know, half hat relationships. If you start at half at business, you always have a hat, half hat business.

Massimo (22:06):

So put in what you got to put in 110%. I know that doesn’t exist, but, but, but put all in, when I used to go out and play, uh, soccer or, or, or any sports I used to put, give everything I got onto the field, I would leave everything I had on the field. Cause otherwise I would come out of the, and if we lost, if we won, I would have come out and started going, why didn’t I do that? Why don’t I do that? And guess what? We’re back to the beginning of our conversation. Why didn’t I do that? Why am I going back and replaying that bad experience and replaying that bad feeling that I had? No, let go of that. But in order for you to let go of that, it’s a lot easier to go. And you know, full-steam, don’t leave anything on the field. I mean, leave everything on the field. Don’t bring anything back. You’ll get your energy back. You’ll get your strength back.

Shauna (22:55):

I always say, it’s okay to go back and look at a situation and figure out what you could have done differently, but not stay in it. Like you’re talking about not staying in that moment, using that moment to take you into the next, to propel you, to move you forward to jumpstart the next scenarios. Yeah.

Massimo (23:13):

I agree with you a hundred percent, that that moment becomes so special. And I’m going to tell you that the moment that, that you cross over from that state of anger and this belief, and you know, my fourth to the fifth day, right? Remember my story. But last year, my fourth to the fifth day, the moment that you have crossed over, you have a rush of emotions that come over you, those goosebumps are present constantly. You get teary-eyed eyes, but you get teary. You’ve crying maybe for four days before now, your, your tears are a different kind of tears. They’re tears of joy. They’re tears of energy. They are tears of motivation. They tear of let’s go out and take the bull by the horn and just, you know, let’s say, okay, it’s time to move on. Forget about what happened in the last four days, the last week, the last month.

Massimo (24:08):

Now that moment living in that moment, being in that moment in those days is the most important part because that’s when you’re going to rebuild, right? And it might not take a day or two or three or five to rebuild. It might take a lot longer, but you want to stay in that moment where you are just feeling those emotions. If you’re going on a hike like me, those moments are the moments that are changing moments. And I always say the changing moment never comes without a good cry. And, and so I’ve gone on hikes where I was so excited about something, every realization that I just had to put something behind me and looking at something that I was going towards that were going not to walk towards, but run towards and having this, this incredible amount of emotions come into you and have a good cry and say, you know what?

Massimo (25:03):

I’m going to climb that, that Hill a lot faster while I’m crying, I might even be singing or screaming, whatever it might be. But I know that I am present in that moment. That is a creative moment where you are going to come up with something in your head. There’s going to be your next business is going to be your next idea. It’s not going to, it’s going to be the next, I don’t know, the desire of doing something for the world that makes this world a better place, right? I’m gonna, I’m gonna say one more thing very quickly. This I learned a few years ago, I was at a party and I ran into a very famous person that asked me, um, what are you happy about? What you do? What do you think when I, when you go to bed at night and I, and I said, well, the two phone numbers that I collected this afternoon from these two hot girls, I swear, I swear.

Massimo (25:51):

That’s what I said to him. And, and he goes, no, no, let’s be serious. And I say, listen, I don’t know. I think about a million different things, right? You asked me the question. That means that you have an answer for me. And now so curious, I want to know. And this man says to me, you know, I go to bed every night. And when I put my head down on my pillow, I think what have I done today to make my world a better place? And he says, my little world, it doesn’t have to be the entire world. I can’t impact the entire world. Even though people know me, but that’s not important. If I can make my world, my little world, my, my, my friends, my, my, my, my relatives, and everyone that revolves around me. If I can make a better world for them, I go to bed with a smile.

Shauna (26:36):

Massimo. That is why I have had such a profound connection to you because you such a pure spirit for everyone that’s in your life. Whether it’s somebody who’s working for you, whether it’s somebody who’s working with you, whether it’s a friend, whether it’s an ex-wife, whatever it is, you have, you come with so much love and non-judgment that it gives them a place to truly be themselves. And when we have an opportunity to truly be ourselves, then what was the line that you said, about the goosebumps? Because that’s what we’re going to call this episode.

Massimo (27:17):

A Constant State of Goosebumps.

Shauna (27:19):

When we can have that kind of relationship with ourselves, someone else, and the world we live in, we are in a constant state of goosebumps. Massimo, thank you so much for being on this episode. I am so blessed to have you in my life. And I thank you so much for coming on the podcast.

Massimo (27:41):

Thank you for having me, Shauna. You know that our conversations are always filled with those goosebumps, right? They’re all, they always feel with some tears as well. But, but again, and they’re tears of joy. They’re tears of happiness, a tear of sadness, but it all comes down to something that we are both, uh, very familiar with… being grateful for, for where we are, the people that are around us. So thank you, my sister.

Shauna (28:06):

Thank you, my soul brother. Oh, everyone. I hope that you walk away from this podcast with a constant state of goosebumps. I hope you take very, very, very good care of yourself. Surround yourself with loving kind beings. Go out there, share that, share those goosebumps. Thank you for letting me into your lives this week. And I look forward to popping back in again next week.

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WHEN DOES IT AIR…
March 20, 2021

Filed Under: Podcast Tagged With: Choices, Discipline, Emotions, Forgive, Hope, Lessons, Massimo, Resilient, Scar

56 Song Therapy From The Beatles

February 27, 2021 By Shauna

Hello and Welcome, I’m Shauna Hoffman

I talked a little bit about song therapy in a previous podcast. This week I was listening to the Beatles and soaking it up! There is something about singing songs that remind you of your youth. And you know every lyric and guitar riff, and throw away lyrics. The Beatles sang about every emotion I have ever felt! Starting with “She was just 17”. I met my husband Bert when I was 17. It’s like our theme song! My mom sat us in front of the TV to watch the Beatles on Ed Sullivan knowing it was going to be a night to remember!

So I decided that today we are going to have a little Beatles Music Therapy! Then when I’m all done recording this episode I am going to shut the door, turn off the lights, crank up some tunes and dance!

EPISODE NOTES:

So there is this thing happening to so many people right now from going on a year of Covid lock downs, and fear and confusion and total twilight zone living. They are calling it Motivation Paralysis. And boy have I felt it. I am usually so motivated for everything I do. And the last few weeks, BAM. Motivation Paralysis. Down to the smallest thing that I love to do which is make the meme’s for the podcast. I was like…eh.

So the one thing that always makes me move is music. Move physically and it wakes up my heart and my soul! I get excited. I want to dance. When I was a kid and I had a bad day I would turn off the lights and dance my heart out!

Now sadly because of music rights I can’t play any of the clips of the songs today. But with the Beatles I won’t have to. I know when I start the lyric the music will take over your mind!

There are some real obvious ones to start with. And since all I talk about over and over again is Loving yourself, staying in the moment and dealing with where you are at this instant I have the perfect song to kick this off. It was originally released as a single. Written by John, and eventually was added to the Sergeant Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band album. It also appeared in their movie The Yellow Submarine and on that soundtrack.

All You Need Is Love

My favorite claim and truth lines in this song are …

Nothing you can make that can’t be made

No one you can save that can’t be saved

Nothing you can do, but you can learn how to be you in time

It’s easy

All you need is love

All you need is love

All you need is love, love

Love is all you need

Nothing you can know that isn’t known. Nothing you can see that isn’t shown. Nothing you can be that isn’t where you’re meant to be…. It’s easy

All you need is love

All you need is love

Love is all you need

Truly!!! That kinda says it all!

When I decided to start putting together this podcast I did an internet deep dive into the Beatles most uplifting or meaningful songs. And there isn’t a question that this next one was on every list or even at the top of every list. “Hey Jude”. It was interesting to find out it was originally written as “Hey Jules” by Paul for John’s son Julian when his parents were getting divorced. Though Julian was only 5, the lyrics have touched the soul of so many of us and given us hope for years.

The lyrics that get me every time are these.

And when the broken-hearted people Living in the world agree There will be an answer: Let it be…

Here are all the lyrics. Let your mind sing them!

Hey Jude, don’t make it bad.

Take a sad song and make it better.

Remember to let her into your heart,

Then you can start to make it better.

Hey Jude, don’t be afraid.

You were made to go out and get her.

The minute you let her under your skin,

Then you begin to make it better.

These next lyrics are for all of you who are suffering through these times…

And anytime you feel the pain, hey Jude, refrain,

Don’t carry the world upon your shoulders.

For well you know that it’s a fool who plays it cool

By making his world a little colder.

Hey Jude, don’t let me down.

You have found her, now go and get her.

Remember to let her into your heart,

Then you can start to make it better.

Now wait! Listen to these next lyrics. If this doesn’t scream self love and YOU are all you need then nothing does!

So let it out and let it in, hey Jude, begin,

You’re waiting for someone to perform with.

And don’t you know that it’s just you, hey Jude, you’ll do,

The movement you need is on your shoulder.

Hey Jude, don’t make it bad.

Take a sad song and make it better.

Remember to let her under your skin,

Then you’ll begin to make it

Better better better better better better, oh.

Ok now I know you are all going…naaaa naa naa nanananaaaaa!

Next wisdom song..

I think the hardest part for so many of us during this last year is not being able to be with our friends. The healing of seeing your besties, hanging with them, laughing with them has started to take a toll on so many people. Zoom can only do so much when you’re craving a hug from your best friend. But you know… we need to take the moments we can get! Here are just some of the lyrics to one that was written by John and Paul and sung by Ringo!

WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM MY FRIENDS

What would you think if I sang out of tune?

Would you stand up and walk out on me?

Lend me your ears and I’ll sing you a song

And I’ll try not to sing out of key

Oh, I get by with a little help from my friends

Mm, I get high with a little help from my friends

Mm, gonna try with a little help from my friends

What do I do when my love is away?

Does it worry you to be alone?

How do I feel by the end of the day?

Are you sad because you’re on your own?

No, I get by with a little help from my friends

Mm, get high with a little help from my friends

Mm, gonna try with a little help from my friends

OK I just love this song so much. It really says it all. And for me.. Singing out of tune is my life story. But my friends don’t walk out on me! Now that is true friendship!

There is one line from Blackbird that just resonates so much with me and for all of us during these times.

Blackbird singing in the dead of night

Take these broken wings and learn to fly

All your life

You were only waiting for this moment to arise

It was written by Paul originally to address the racial strife in the South in the 1960s. Paul said later, “This was really a song from me to a black woman, experiencing these problems in the States: ‘Let me encourage you to keep trying, to keep your faith; there is hope.”

This year has been a time for people of color to truly arise. To be heard, to be truly seen. This song resonates for so many of us on a different level. So many people around the world who feel that their wings have been broken through this last year. We all need to learn how to fly again!

This year has been the most trying one in a long time for our world! I started to list them but just stopped the recording and deleted all of them. Suffice it to say that we all have made it through! You are here listening to this podcast and I am here sharing it with you. Hallelujah! ,So I am going to end the Beatles’ wisdom song therapy with this one by George! Beautiful, soulful George Harrison.

Here Comes The Sun

Here comes the sun do, do, do

Here comes the sun

And I say it’s all right

Little darling, it’s been a long cold lonely winter

Little darling, it seems like years since it’s been here

Here comes the sun do, do, do

Here comes the sun

And I say it’s all right

Little darling, the smiles returning to the faces

Little darling, it feels like years since it’s been here

Here comes the sun do, do, do

Here comes the sun

And I say it’s all right

Little darling, I feel that ice is slowly melting

Little darling, it seems like years since it’s been clear

Here comes the sun do, do, do

Here comes the sun

And I say it’s all right

Here comes the sun do, do, do

Here comes the sun

And I say it’s all right

To all of you my amazing listeners I say… Here comes the sun. We will get through this. We will take our broken wings and learn to fly! We will take a sad song and make it better. All with a little help from our friends! Because you know…All you need is love! Share this episode with any of your friends that need a little music therapy!

Now take such good care of yourselves! Drink lots of water, eat nourishing foods and surround yourself with loving beings! And maybe make a song list that you can play for yourself as you close your door, turn off your lights and dance your heart out!

Thank you for letting me into your life this week! And I look forward to popping back in again, next week.

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February 27, 2021

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